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I don't agree with a lot of HSUS's focus, but I had always kind of felt some sort of respect for Pacelle. I lost a lot of it after this interview. [via Eric P] Some choice quotes:
"I don’t think in any kind of practical way one can say [the HSUS is] trying to eliminate animal agriculture."
"You can have an echo chamber within the world of industrial agriculture or confinement agriculture and people will say they are just a bunch of vegans and vegetarians that want to end our way of life. That is not the debate. The debate is about confinement systems, humane transport and humane slaughter."
"[Q: Are you trying to shut down zoos and circuses from having animals?] Zoos, absolutely not."
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