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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-14524</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;what i was descussing is there IS a humane way to farm and its seems that no vegans are willing to admit that animals in a family farm have it better than half the humans do.&lt;/em&gt;

No way.

Killing cannot be made &quot;humane&quot; when it has nothing to do with the animal&#039;s benefit. It matters little that they live a life of supposed luxury (unlikely and far *Iess* common than you believe - family farms are not the heavens they&#039;re marketing make them out to be) if they&#039;re killed at just a few years old, still have their babies taken away from them, etc.

And, by the way, there&#039;s no way that family farms raising meat are &quot;sustainable&quot; for a world like ours with a rapidly increasing population.

I have no interest in promoting &quot;humane&quot; killing because it&#039;s still killing, it&#039;s still unnecessary, and it does little to move people away from consuming animal products. Indeed, to me it seems to have the opposite effect, instead making vegetarians all of a sudden feel OK about eating meat again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>what i was descussing is there IS a humane way to farm and its seems that no vegans are willing to admit that animals in a family farm have it better than half the humans do.</em></p>
<p>No way.</p>
<p>Killing cannot be made &#8220;humane&#8221; when it has nothing to do with the animal&#8217;s benefit. It matters little that they live a life of supposed luxury (unlikely and far *Iess* common than you believe &#8211; family farms are not the heavens they&#8217;re marketing make them out to be) if they&#8217;re killed at just a few years old, still have their babies taken away from them, etc.</p>
<p>And, by the way, there&#8217;s no way that family farms raising meat are &#8220;sustainable&#8221; for a world like ours with a rapidly increasing population.</p>
<p>I have no interest in promoting &#8220;humane&#8221; killing because it&#8217;s still killing, it&#8217;s still unnecessary, and it does little to move people away from consuming animal products. Indeed, to me it seems to have the opposite effect, instead making vegetarians all of a sudden feel OK about eating meat again.</p>
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		<title>By: the omnivore guy</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-14523</link>
		<dc:creator>the omnivore guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and as metallica said &quot;to live is to die&quot; you were born automatically w/the outcome of death being the final guarentee anyway. so if we can leave these animals in luxury for the time they are here and treat them w/the understanding everything dies and it is a matter if that death and life truely served a purpose we&#039;d all be far better off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and as metallica said &#8220;to live is to die&#8221; you were born automatically w/the outcome of death being the final guarentee anyway. so if we can leave these animals in luxury for the time they are here and treat them w/the understanding everything dies and it is a matter if that death and life truely served a purpose we&#8217;d all be far better off.</p>
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		<title>By: the omnivore guy</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-14522</link>
		<dc:creator>the omnivore guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 20:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>read the comment on the top. what i was descussing is there IS a humane way to farm and its seems that no vegans are willing to admit that animals in a family farm have it better than half the humans do. these farms are more common than people think. Im from cali and i could name 4 locally. not a huge portion of the industry but they are spreading and they NEED to. its the only sustainable way. either way all you in your lives are in love with and or love someone who eats animals. can we at least admit that no country in the world has an entirely vegan menu. not ONE, the point im making is if we can revere the animals and treat them with the utmost kindness up until there death which SHOULD be done as absolutely quickly and humanely as possible then that is a far better step forward than what has been done all of industrial history... no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>read the comment on the top. what i was descussing is there IS a humane way to farm and its seems that no vegans are willing to admit that animals in a family farm have it better than half the humans do. these farms are more common than people think. Im from cali and i could name 4 locally. not a huge portion of the industry but they are spreading and they NEED to. its the only sustainable way. either way all you in your lives are in love with and or love someone who eats animals. can we at least admit that no country in the world has an entirely vegan menu. not ONE, the point im making is if we can revere the animals and treat them with the utmost kindness up until there death which SHOULD be done as absolutely quickly and humanely as possible then that is a far better step forward than what has been done all of industrial history&#8230; no?</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-14521</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death is a necessary part of life. Sure.

But the death of animals for our consumption isn&#039;t necessary in the vast majority of cases today. Remember, we breed animals simply in order to kill them. Trying to justify their deaths as &quot;just a part of life&quot; trivializes the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death is a necessary part of life. Sure.</p>
<p>But the death of animals for our consumption isn&#8217;t necessary in the vast majority of cases today. Remember, we breed animals simply in order to kill them. Trying to justify their deaths as &#8220;just a part of life&#8221; trivializes the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: the omnivore guy</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-14520</link>
		<dc:creator>the omnivore guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the comment on overpopulation too, theres only one sad F(*%$# up solution to overpopulation and its the one thing all vegans are trying to stop although i agree humans by far are growing the fastest and the worst. When will people understand death is not a punishment, in a western society you all see death as the end and its not. Thirdly i personally know people who would rather ended up dead than gone through what they&#039;ve gone through, does that make them any worse of a person or weak or in reality are the suicides and cancer patients only slowing down the inevitable overpopulation problem? Thats a horrible take on life but w/o death there is no life it seems everyone here forgets that. People used to bury there own children CONSISTENTLY for most of human history... is that a tregedy YES do I actually care anymore, sadly no. Because w/o the plague w/o cancer w/o aids we would all be royally screwed. THINK about it deep n hard and understand that w/o death LIFE would be the one thats ceases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the comment on overpopulation too, theres only one sad F(*%$# up solution to overpopulation and its the one thing all vegans are trying to stop although i agree humans by far are growing the fastest and the worst. When will people understand death is not a punishment, in a western society you all see death as the end and its not. Thirdly i personally know people who would rather ended up dead than gone through what they&#8217;ve gone through, does that make them any worse of a person or weak or in reality are the suicides and cancer patients only slowing down the inevitable overpopulation problem? Thats a horrible take on life but w/o death there is no life it seems everyone here forgets that. People used to bury there own children CONSISTENTLY for most of human history&#8230; is that a tregedy YES do I actually care anymore, sadly no. Because w/o the plague w/o cancer w/o aids we would all be royally screwed. THINK about it deep n hard and understand that w/o death LIFE would be the one thats ceases.</p>
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		<title>By: the omnivore guy</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-14519</link>
		<dc:creator>the omnivore guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>need a comma after &quot;...in the wild  ,   to die...&quot;. I would love to here a contemplation on my answer n maybe all u all are happy to live or the chances youve been given, but as for me it seems the cow at Joes Farm had a far better life than i did growing up n still to this day. please comment i would love some feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>need a comma after &#8220;&#8230;in the wild  ,   to die&#8230;&#8221;. I would love to here a contemplation on my answer n maybe all u all are happy to live or the chances youve been given, but as for me it seems the cow at Joes Farm had a far better life than i did growing up n still to this day. please comment i would love some feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: the omnivore guy</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-14518</link>
		<dc:creator>the omnivore guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So ive never read on veganism too much but i came here expecting to be swayed to the point of maybe going vegi. at least. But some of the arguments here made me think twice. 
      First off i understand that i may die of heart disease, an early death etc etc. due to eating red meat, which sadly enough is my absolute favorite. After reading at least three pages of comments on my mobile i felt compelled to comment on a blog the FIRST time in my LIFE... Vegans first off i respect your decision and the ethical reasons for doing so. Purely carnivores i respect your decision too although i cant not see any ethical sense in doing so and omnivores wellllll..... i am one so ha ha ha. BUT, the saddest thing no one has brought up is that THE FACT IS AND STANDS AS HOMO HOMO SAPIENS evolved a higher level of sentience PRIMARIALY DUE to the fact that we killed to eat. There has been thousands and thousands of pages of research done proving this fact, let alone the ONLY(caps for emphasis not anger) HOMO genus even left wandering this planet can eat and digest meat.
  The fact is w/out complex organizational skills that society can not exist, the sadder fact is that a purely herbivourous diet does not require any of those organizational skills and or too many complicated communication skills to acheive a level of living able to sustain the creature as shown by the fact that far more than half of the earths most sentient and intelligent creatures are purely carnivores and the rest are omnivores to a varying degree.
     I digest(no pun intended) simple logic concludes that the reason we humans TODAY can even comtimplate the well being of these animals and creatures we kill is DIRECTLY do to fact that in our past we killed and ate those same animals consistently enough, to require the complex communication/orginizational skills giving us the evolutionary capabiltity to rise to sentience. If you believe in a god of some sort i am sorry if thats offensive but this debate seems very scientific in nature and ethical not religous so im sorry if you disagree due to religous leanings.
     Another argument that hasnt been made yet which i find odd coming from a heart felt vegan perspective is that of loyalty. Yes loyalty... You ask how? Think for a moment, would you not give your life to further your familys even if it was cut a good chunk short as long as you knew that every piece you had given had been for there benefit. (I understand this is not the case in a factory farm, but only in a small family farm which ARE more common than many of you seem to realise) 
     The point im trying to make is Ive suffered through my life, PRETTY BADLY actually &#039;n yet i would STILL cut my life 30+ years short just to know my Lady was taken care of for the rest of hers. Just out of loyalty. See the thing is animals feel loyalty too NO MATTER what anyone will say, n if i had the chance of being reincarnated into a cow at a family farm and knew that my throughout my WHOLE life that i lived that i would be waited on hand and foot, have my medical care taken care of and lived as happy as a cow ever could instead of dealing with the wild to die a few years short to take care of the people i knew in my heart cared about me, i would take that choice any day of the week rather than coming back as a human and knowing what it is to suffer the guilt of shame, sexual and physical abuse, mental and verbal and unemployment w/bills to pay. Make me a cow at a family farm my next life; for death IS NOT a punishment in the slightest its only a part of life and far more inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So ive never read on veganism too much but i came here expecting to be swayed to the point of maybe going vegi. at least. But some of the arguments here made me think twice.<br />
      First off i understand that i may die of heart disease, an early death etc etc. due to eating red meat, which sadly enough is my absolute favorite. After reading at least three pages of comments on my mobile i felt compelled to comment on a blog the FIRST time in my LIFE&#8230; Vegans first off i respect your decision and the ethical reasons for doing so. Purely carnivores i respect your decision too although i cant not see any ethical sense in doing so and omnivores wellllll&#8230;.. i am one so ha ha ha. BUT, the saddest thing no one has brought up is that THE FACT IS AND STANDS AS HOMO HOMO SAPIENS evolved a higher level of sentience PRIMARIALY DUE to the fact that we killed to eat. There has been thousands and thousands of pages of research done proving this fact, let alone the ONLY(caps for emphasis not anger) HOMO genus even left wandering this planet can eat and digest meat.<br />
  The fact is w/out complex organizational skills that society can not exist, the sadder fact is that a purely herbivourous diet does not require any of those organizational skills and or too many complicated communication skills to acheive a level of living able to sustain the creature as shown by the fact that far more than half of the earths most sentient and intelligent creatures are purely carnivores and the rest are omnivores to a varying degree.<br />
     I digest(no pun intended) simple logic concludes that the reason we humans TODAY can even comtimplate the well being of these animals and creatures we kill is DIRECTLY do to fact that in our past we killed and ate those same animals consistently enough, to require the complex communication/orginizational skills giving us the evolutionary capabiltity to rise to sentience. If you believe in a god of some sort i am sorry if thats offensive but this debate seems very scientific in nature and ethical not religous so im sorry if you disagree due to religous leanings.<br />
     Another argument that hasnt been made yet which i find odd coming from a heart felt vegan perspective is that of loyalty. Yes loyalty&#8230; You ask how? Think for a moment, would you not give your life to further your familys even if it was cut a good chunk short as long as you knew that every piece you had given had been for there benefit. (I understand this is not the case in a factory farm, but only in a small family farm which ARE more common than many of you seem to realise)<br />
     The point im trying to make is Ive suffered through my life, PRETTY BADLY actually &#8216;n yet i would STILL cut my life 30+ years short just to know my Lady was taken care of for the rest of hers. Just out of loyalty. See the thing is animals feel loyalty too NO MATTER what anyone will say, n if i had the chance of being reincarnated into a cow at a family farm and knew that my throughout my WHOLE life that i lived that i would be waited on hand and foot, have my medical care taken care of and lived as happy as a cow ever could instead of dealing with the wild to die a few years short to take care of the people i knew in my heart cared about me, i would take that choice any day of the week rather than coming back as a human and knowing what it is to suffer the guilt of shame, sexual and physical abuse, mental and verbal and unemployment w/bills to pay. Make me a cow at a family farm my next life; for death IS NOT a punishment in the slightest its only a part of life and far more inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Reita</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-12025</link>
		<dc:creator>Reita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I would say, don&#039;t get offended unless you are doing anything really extreme. Don&#039;t preach, judge, or force people to do as you&#039;d like, and you&#039;ll be fine.

Unless you are an extremist, and are making your dogs go vegetarian.
:/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I would say, don&#8217;t get offended unless you are doing anything really extreme. Don&#8217;t preach, judge, or force people to do as you&#8217;d like, and you&#8217;ll be fine.</p>
<p>Unless you are an extremist, and are making your dogs go vegetarian.<br />
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		<title>By: vegamazon</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-10647</link>
		<dc:creator>vegamazon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be more inclined to listen to an anti-vegan argument if the sources quoted weren&#039;t all from Wikipedia.

Just a thought.

I&#039;ve been a vegetarian (and I must shamefully admit that for a while, I was one of those idiots that called myself a vegetarian even though I still ate fish) for thirteen years and only fairly recently made the transition to veganism.  For my part, I find preachy vegans (despite the fact that I agree with them on moral grounds) just as annoying and pretentious as people who are fanatical about their religion.  Whenever I feel like being all &quot;vegangetical&quot; (thank you veganfreak.org for that wonderful term), I first think about how I would feel about someone trying to force their religious views on me.  Not good.  Not good at all. 
 
If someone wants to discuss animal rights or veganism with me, that&#039;s great and I&#039;m always up for a good discussion, but I prefer to just go about my freaky vegan life... no soapbox required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be more inclined to listen to an anti-vegan argument if the sources quoted weren&#8217;t all from Wikipedia.</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a vegetarian (and I must shamefully admit that for a while, I was one of those idiots that called myself a vegetarian even though I still ate fish) for thirteen years and only fairly recently made the transition to veganism.  For my part, I find preachy vegans (despite the fact that I agree with them on moral grounds) just as annoying and pretentious as people who are fanatical about their religion.  Whenever I feel like being all &#8220;vegangetical&#8221; (thank you veganfreak.org for that wonderful term), I first think about how I would feel about someone trying to force their religious views on me.  Not good.  Not good at all. </p>
<p>If someone wants to discuss animal rights or veganism with me, that&#8217;s great and I&#8217;m always up for a good discussion, but I prefer to just go about my freaky vegan life&#8230; no soapbox required.</p>
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		<title>By: Janez</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-8984</link>
		<dc:creator>Janez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry, Erin, your argument is flawed. Check out http://www.fallacyfiles.org/denyante.html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry, Erin, your argument is flawed. Check out <a href="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/denyante.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fallacyfiles.org/denyante.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: erin</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-8982</link>
		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, veganism is the morally superior position. 

i think most people would agree that animals, if given the choice, would rather not be enslaved and eaten. the only morally acceptable reason for subjecting them to this would be if it were somehow necessary for own survival, much the same way killing of another human can be excused if it is in self defense or defense of an innocent person, but millions of healthy vegans (i can provide lots of accounts if needed) are proof positive that one can thrive without any animal foods. here&#039;s the moral argument laid out:

1. If eating animals is necessary, meat eating is not immoral.
2. Eating animals is not necessary.
3. Therefore, meat eating is immoral.

this argument is both valid and sound. 

imho, making the morally superior choice is required of all responsible, educated, sensitive human beings :).

~erin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, veganism is the morally superior position. </p>
<p>i think most people would agree that animals, if given the choice, would rather not be enslaved and eaten. the only morally acceptable reason for subjecting them to this would be if it were somehow necessary for own survival, much the same way killing of another human can be excused if it is in self defense or defense of an innocent person, but millions of healthy vegans (i can provide lots of accounts if needed) are proof positive that one can thrive without any animal foods. here&#8217;s the moral argument laid out:</p>
<p>1. If eating animals is necessary, meat eating is not immoral.<br />
2. Eating animals is not necessary.<br />
3. Therefore, meat eating is immoral.</p>
<p>this argument is both valid and sound. </p>
<p>imho, making the morally superior choice is required of all responsible, educated, sensitive human beings :).</p>
<p>~erin</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2006/12/04/veganism-is-not-extreme/#comment-8957</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vegan rican: I&#039;ve been able to convince quite a few people to reduce their animal product intake by discussing veganism with them. I know many others have had that same experience. 

Yes, you get some resistance when you do that - it&#039;s natural for people to defend their lifestyles and to avoid cognitive dissonance - but I&#039;ve found that the more I discuss the subject, the better I become at responding to those defenses while keeping the other person engaged and the conversation friendly and productive. 

Of course one has to be respectful of others: we don&#039;t know exactly what it&#039;s like to be them, and everyone has their fears and unique experiences and hot button issues. Nonetheless, it is possible to persuade people to make changes to their lifestyles in a civil and cordial manner. 

Sometimes it helps to be patient. For many people, giving up meat, dairy, and eggs at first sounds impossible and off the wall. It often takes a while to acknowledge that what we eat is largely arbitrary and the result of habit and taking the path of least resistance, and that one can have a perfectly satisifying, diverse, and healthy diet without eating flesh, milk, and eggs.

So by discussing veganism - and animal rights and all those related issues - with others, I&#039;ve been able to reduce the amount of exploitation and human-caused animal suffering in world.

If you never inform others about veganism, the violence in slaughterhouses, and the moral transgressions inherent in killing animals for pleasure, they may remain ignorant and avoid thinking about those topics their whole lives, and never change. That&#039;s a missed opportunity. Often, one conversation, or one book that you lend someone, can make a profound difference.

Granted, not everyone feels comfortable doing one-on-one outreach, or even writing letters to the editor. But there is probably some form of activism for everyone; perhaps for you it&#039;s handing out veg restaurant guides or vegan starter kits, or urging your city council to ban rodeos, or requesting that your school cafeteria provide more vegan options - or starting a petition to do that - or simply sharing delicious vegan food and recipes with friends and co-workers.

For more ideas and a compelling explanation of why your activism makes a difference, check out &quot;Striking At The Roots&quot; by Mark Hawthorne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vegan rican: I&#8217;ve been able to convince quite a few people to reduce their animal product intake by discussing veganism with them. I know many others have had that same experience. </p>
<p>Yes, you get some resistance when you do that &#8211; it&#8217;s natural for people to defend their lifestyles and to avoid cognitive dissonance &#8211; but I&#8217;ve found that the more I discuss the subject, the better I become at responding to those defenses while keeping the other person engaged and the conversation friendly and productive. </p>
<p>Of course one has to be respectful of others: we don&#8217;t know exactly what it&#8217;s like to be them, and everyone has their fears and unique experiences and hot button issues. Nonetheless, it is possible to persuade people to make changes to their lifestyles in a civil and cordial manner. </p>
<p>Sometimes it helps to be patient. For many people, giving up meat, dairy, and eggs at first sounds impossible and off the wall. It often takes a while to acknowledge that what we eat is largely arbitrary and the result of habit and taking the path of least resistance, and that one can have a perfectly satisifying, diverse, and healthy diet without eating flesh, milk, and eggs.</p>
<p>So by discussing veganism &#8211; and animal rights and all those related issues &#8211; with others, I&#8217;ve been able to reduce the amount of exploitation and human-caused animal suffering in world.</p>
<p>If you never inform others about veganism, the violence in slaughterhouses, and the moral transgressions inherent in killing animals for pleasure, they may remain ignorant and avoid thinking about those topics their whole lives, and never change. That&#8217;s a missed opportunity. Often, one conversation, or one book that you lend someone, can make a profound difference.</p>
<p>Granted, not everyone feels comfortable doing one-on-one outreach, or even writing letters to the editor. But there is probably some form of activism for everyone; perhaps for you it&#8217;s handing out veg restaurant guides or vegan starter kits, or urging your city council to ban rodeos, or requesting that your school cafeteria provide more vegan options &#8211; or starting a petition to do that &#8211; or simply sharing delicious vegan food and recipes with friends and co-workers.</p>
<p>For more ideas and a compelling explanation of why your activism makes a difference, check out &#8220;Striking At The Roots&#8221; by Mark Hawthorne.</p>
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		<dc:creator>the vegan rican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry for the grammar...lol...Gog!</description>
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		<dc:creator>the vegan rican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Everyone.  I read this entire post. I am a firmly believe that veganism ,like religion and politics, should not be discussed.  I just keep it to myself. Most of people, not all are trying to defend and fight there beliefs.  Why? Stop! Enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Everyone.  I read this entire post. I am a firmly believe that veganism ,like religion and politics, should not be discussed.  I just keep it to myself. Most of people, not all are trying to defend and fight there beliefs.  Why? Stop! Enough!</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh, someone brought up the &quot;they might prefer to exist and get eaten than to never be born&quot; argument.  If being born is so vastly preferable, we should never neuter our pets, because all the kittens euthanized at the pound are totally lucky to have been born.  Also we are morally obligated to produce as many children as we possibly can, because otherwise we are denying them being born!  Crap, I better go get pregnant right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, someone brought up the &#8220;they might prefer to exist and get eaten than to never be born&#8221; argument.  If being born is so vastly preferable, we should never neuter our pets, because all the kittens euthanized at the pound are totally lucky to have been born.  Also we are morally obligated to produce as many children as we possibly can, because otherwise we are denying them being born!  Crap, I better go get pregnant right now!</p>
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