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		<title>By: katlin</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-11915</link>
		<dc:creator>katlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 23:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I like subway a lot. Haha. I&#039;ve been a vegetarian for well over 10 years and I go in there a lot, and get the veggie delight. Everytime I go in there they are pretty dead, so they get a new pair of gloves. Its soo hard to find fast food chains that offer vegetarian options, meat-eaters don&#039;t understand. Mcdonalds is a vegetarian&#039;s nightmare, everything contains meat products, even their fries and hashbrowns.
Burger king has the veggie burger which is pretty good.
I would much rather go to quiznos though, pay a couple dollars more and get a much better veggie sandwitch. Gauc and all. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I like subway a lot. Haha. I&#8217;ve been a vegetarian for well over 10 years and I go in there a lot, and get the veggie delight. Everytime I go in there they are pretty dead, so they get a new pair of gloves. Its soo hard to find fast food chains that offer vegetarian options, meat-eaters don&#8217;t understand. Mcdonalds is a vegetarian&#8217;s nightmare, everything contains meat products, even their fries and hashbrowns.<br />
Burger king has the veggie burger which is pretty good.<br />
I would much rather go to quiznos though, pay a couple dollars more and get a much better veggie sandwitch. Gauc and all. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-11894</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 05:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HATE SUBWAY! I will never go in their again. Twice they made me a veggie sandwich without changing their gloves having made a meat sandwich before me. Why should I have to tell them to change their gloves to avoid meat juice on my food.

SUBWAY - YOU ARE A BIG PILL OF POO!

grrrrrrrrrr  (Teawhench)

I guess if you are seriously orthodox Jew, you might have deep objections with your roast beef being handled by the same gloves that handled ham or cheese.  

But BIGOTRY certainly includes expecting the whole world (including every minimum wage sandwhich artiste) to read your mind on how orthodox you are in your particular belief system and comply.

PILL[sic] OF POO?  (What is this, kindergarten?)

But I have a solution that respects my rights (becuase why should I be stiffed with the cost of something my belief system doesn&#039;t require) and various ORTHODOX minorities - initiate a 25 cents per requested glove charge.  

That way, you are particulary demanding, you can have your bread sliced with one set of gloves, your cold cuts inserted with another, two more sets of gloves so your lettuce doesn&#039;t get handled with the same gloves that came into contact with tomatoes, ect., in absurdum.

Are Teawhench, et.al, sensitive a cornivore&#039;s possible preference (depending on his degree of orthodoxy) not to have his meat handled  (ewwwwwwwwwwwww!) by gloves that came into contact with this weird veggie concoction?

P.S.  Contribute the charge to a tip fund for Subway employs.  Then you would get a big smile... &quot;Can I take your order?  And how many times would you like me to change my gloves today?&quot;
Somehow, I don&#039;t think Teawhench has ever left anything in any tip jar (anywhere)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HATE SUBWAY! I will never go in their again. Twice they made me a veggie sandwich without changing their gloves having made a meat sandwich before me. Why should I have to tell them to change their gloves to avoid meat juice on my food.</p>
<p>SUBWAY &#8211; YOU ARE A BIG PILL OF POO!</p>
<p>grrrrrrrrrr  (Teawhench)</p>
<p>I guess if you are seriously orthodox Jew, you might have deep objections with your roast beef being handled by the same gloves that handled ham or cheese.  </p>
<p>But BIGOTRY certainly includes expecting the whole world (including every minimum wage sandwhich artiste) to read your mind on how orthodox you are in your particular belief system and comply.</p>
<p>PILL[sic] OF POO?  (What is this, kindergarten?)</p>
<p>But I have a solution that respects my rights (becuase why should I be stiffed with the cost of something my belief system doesn&#8217;t require) and various ORTHODOX minorities &#8211; initiate a 25 cents per requested glove charge.  </p>
<p>That way, you are particulary demanding, you can have your bread sliced with one set of gloves, your cold cuts inserted with another, two more sets of gloves so your lettuce doesn&#8217;t get handled with the same gloves that came into contact with tomatoes, ect., in absurdum.</p>
<p>Are Teawhench, et.al, sensitive a cornivore&#8217;s possible preference (depending on his degree of orthodoxy) not to have his meat handled  (ewwwwwwwwwwwww!) by gloves that came into contact with this weird veggie concoction?</p>
<p>P.S.  Contribute the charge to a tip fund for Subway employs.  Then you would get a big smile&#8230; &#8220;Can I take your order?  And how many times would you like me to change my gloves today?&#8221;<br />
Somehow, I don&#8217;t think Teawhench has ever left anything in any tip jar (anywhere)</p>
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		<title>By: Maribel</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10827</link>
		<dc:creator>Maribel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, I meant blog 48.</description>
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		<title>By: Maribel</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10826</link>
		<dc:creator>Maribel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate, if you read blog 49, it gives ingredients for the veggiemax. I see no animal products there. However, the gardenburger does. Maybe that&#039;s what your store sells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate, if you read blog 49, it gives ingredients for the veggiemax. I see no animal products there. However, the gardenburger does. Maybe that&#8217;s what your store sells.</p>
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		<title>By: Vegan Subway Menu</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10762</link>
		<dc:creator>Vegan Subway Menu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see them offer fake (vegan) meats - they would be a great venue to bring veganism to the public.</description>
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		<title>By: Kaushik</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10697</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaushik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan,
Wonderful blog you&#039;ve got here. Was searching for good vegetarian food in Subway when I stumbled across yours. Was pleasantly surprised and heartened to see this blog. Nice work. I&#039;m an Indian and have been a vegetarian all my life. I used to have eggs some time when I was a child, but once I came of age and knew the good from the bad, I have stopped eating even items like cakes that contain eggs. I do consume milk though. I am not sure if you have had Indian food, but of all the cuisines in the world I have come across, I realized Indian food offers the most vegetarian dishes, so in case you haven&#039;t tried, I&#039;d really suggest you to try. Here&#039;s a useful link - http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/Subway.htm for Subway, it also has general info for different restaurants.
Keep it going! Let&#039;s turn the world. Vegetarianism Rocks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,<br />
Wonderful blog you&#8217;ve got here. Was searching for good vegetarian food in Subway when I stumbled across yours. Was pleasantly surprised and heartened to see this blog. Nice work. I&#8217;m an Indian and have been a vegetarian all my life. I used to have eggs some time when I was a child, but once I came of age and knew the good from the bad, I have stopped eating even items like cakes that contain eggs. I do consume milk though. I am not sure if you have had Indian food, but of all the cuisines in the world I have come across, I realized Indian food offers the most vegetarian dishes, so in case you haven&#8217;t tried, I&#8217;d really suggest you to try. Here&#8217;s a useful link &#8211; <a href="http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/Subway.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/Subway.htm</a> for Subway, it also has general info for different restaurants.<br />
Keep it going! Let&#8217;s turn the world. Vegetarianism Rocks!</p>
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		<title>By: Ramesh</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10617</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a &lt;a href=&quot;http://naastik.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/subway-responds/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; response &lt;/a&gt; from Subway re: veggie patty nutritional information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a <a href="http://naastik.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/subway-responds/" rel="nofollow"> response </a> from Subway re: veggie patty nutritional information.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10598</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The veggiemax patties are vegitarian but not vegan, they contain milk and egg. I work there an have read the ingredients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The veggiemax patties are vegitarian but not vegan, they contain milk and egg. I work there an have read the ingredients.</p>
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		<title>By: subman</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10432</link>
		<dc:creator>subman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke to a guy on long island and he happened to own a Subway.  He actually took my email address and emailed me the ingredients.  They were the same as &quot;Vegan flan&quot; posted.  Although I live in Selden NY about a half hour away---when I get a craving I drive all the way to his place in Center Moriches, because I know he will always have them ( his wife is a vegetarian and it&#039;s her favorite sub.)  Plus he says people know that he carries them now so he says he sells more veggie maxes than meatball subs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke to a guy on long island and he happened to own a Subway.  He actually took my email address and emailed me the ingredients.  They were the same as &#8220;Vegan flan&#8221; posted.  Although I live in Selden NY about a half hour away&#8212;when I get a craving I drive all the way to his place in Center Moriches, because I know he will always have them ( his wife is a vegetarian and it&#8217;s her favorite sub.)  Plus he says people know that he carries them now so he says he sells more veggie maxes than meatball subs.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10295</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this blog I am very saddened by subway, and many other companies choice to offer veggie options which are not vegan. Although I was vegetarian for a few years before becoming vegan, mainly because I became severly lactose intolerant, I think that over the last 10 years or so there have been many new options available at various restaurant&#039;s.

I am still astonished by  posts from people such as Lexy and others above which purposefully  ridicule others just because they are different. But we have to remember to be accepting of people who choose to eat meat, if we want the same respect back from them. If not are we any better than them? Although I am all for people learning where their meat comes from and being informed consumers.

I do want to say thank you for making this site, I was unsure about the veggie patties at subway and for months kept checking their website and was never really sure why they didn&#039;t post the nutritional information. I really wish someone would open in a chain of vegan/vegetarian fast food restaurant&#039;s. Nowadays so many people have dietary restrictions ranging from allergies to religious beliefs, to health concerns, that companies should be required by law to have on hand all ingredient and nutritional information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this blog I am very saddened by subway, and many other companies choice to offer veggie options which are not vegan. Although I was vegetarian for a few years before becoming vegan, mainly because I became severly lactose intolerant, I think that over the last 10 years or so there have been many new options available at various restaurant&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I am still astonished by  posts from people such as Lexy and others above which purposefully  ridicule others just because they are different. But we have to remember to be accepting of people who choose to eat meat, if we want the same respect back from them. If not are we any better than them? Although I am all for people learning where their meat comes from and being informed consumers.</p>
<p>I do want to say thank you for making this site, I was unsure about the veggie patties at subway and for months kept checking their website and was never really sure why they didn&#8217;t post the nutritional information. I really wish someone would open in a chain of vegan/vegetarian fast food restaurant&#8217;s. Nowadays so many people have dietary restrictions ranging from allergies to religious beliefs, to health concerns, that companies should be required by law to have on hand all ingredient and nutritional information.</p>
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		<title>By: LEXY</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10268</link>
		<dc:creator>LEXY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try as you may to be a Vegan but somehow you will get a little meat on that sandwhich.  I mean it&#039;s not like they change gloves everytime they make a sandwich.  So ENJOY!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try as you may to be a Vegan but somehow you will get a little meat on that sandwhich.  I mean it&#8217;s not like they change gloves everytime they make a sandwich.  So ENJOY!!</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-10193</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went into subway today and ordered the veggie patty, the guy serving asked me if I was a vegetarian for ethical reasons or just because I didn&#039;t like the taste when I asked him why he told me that the &#039;Veggie&#039; patty contains beef fat to hold all the ingredients together and that they wouldn&#039;t actually tell you that. I&#039;m not sure if this is only the case in the subways in the UK or if the same ingredient is used everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went into subway today and ordered the veggie patty, the guy serving asked me if I was a vegetarian for ethical reasons or just because I didn&#8217;t like the taste when I asked him why he told me that the &#8216;Veggie&#8217; patty contains beef fat to hold all the ingredients together and that they wouldn&#8217;t actually tell you that. I&#8217;m not sure if this is only the case in the subways in the UK or if the same ingredient is used everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom B</title>
		<link>http://www.vegblog.org/archive/2005/03/30/subways-muddled-menu/comment-page-3/#comment-9973</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Twice they made me a veggie sandwich without changing their gloves having made a meat sandwich before me.&quot;

 If the idea of such a thing is so bothersome to you why not stay away altogether?

 I would not give my money to a business that had so many offensive practices and made their profit from selling items or services that I felt were wrong, immoral or disgusting.

 But it&#039;s OK to add to their profits as long as the underpaid employees will do a little dance for you?

 If you truly have strong convictions STAND by them. Otherwise it&#039;s all just ego and pretentiousness.

&quot;made me a veggie sandwich without changing their gloves&quot;. Grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Twice they made me a veggie sandwich without changing their gloves having made a meat sandwich before me.&#8221;</p>
<p> If the idea of such a thing is so bothersome to you why not stay away altogether?</p>
<p> I would not give my money to a business that had so many offensive practices and made their profit from selling items or services that I felt were wrong, immoral or disgusting.</p>
<p> But it&#8217;s OK to add to their profits as long as the underpaid employees will do a little dance for you?</p>
<p> If you truly have strong convictions STAND by them. Otherwise it&#8217;s all just ego and pretentiousness.</p>
<p>&#8220;made me a veggie sandwich without changing their gloves&#8221;. Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: SallySitwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>SallySitwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They carry the veggie patty in Cleveland OH. One store happened to put it on the &#039;local favorite&#039; list, which is the only reason I knew about it. I actually didn&#039;t know it was a &#039;national&#039; thing since I couldn&#039;t find it on Subway&#039;s menu online and had never heard of the &#039;local favs&#039; thing before. I just figured it was just a neighborhood thing. Go figure!

As for the patty. It was way too big for the 6-inch bun with all the salad stuffs, so I had to cut and take off part of it. It was fine. Just tasted like a microwaved Gardenburger with a little too much mushroom if you ask me. Personally I like the salad-on-some-bread-sub, since all I usually want is the bread, the sweet onion sauce, and the black olives. But I get the lettuce, cucumbers, peppers, tomatoes, etc., and I like it. No cheese, too many calories and I usually ended up picking it off anyway since I&#039;m picky like that. 

Anyway, I am glad they have that for those who don&#039;t like the salad-on-some-bread-sub. Also, I know that sort of option would have been a lifesaver for me in my early days of vegetarianism, when I didn&#039;t know exactly what I was supposed to be eating now that I didn&#039;t eat meat but knew I wanted something that vaguely reminded me, texture-wise, of meat. Transitions and all.


I don&#039;t get Subway often, but if I bring a veggie sub home, I fry up some of my own fake-chicken tofu stuffs and slap that on the sandwich. Way better than their VegPatty and fewer calories. Plus I know exactly what I put in it which is always nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They carry the veggie patty in Cleveland OH. One store happened to put it on the &#8216;local favorite&#8217; list, which is the only reason I knew about it. I actually didn&#8217;t know it was a &#8216;national&#8217; thing since I couldn&#8217;t find it on Subway&#8217;s menu online and had never heard of the &#8216;local favs&#8217; thing before. I just figured it was just a neighborhood thing. Go figure!</p>
<p>As for the patty. It was way too big for the 6-inch bun with all the salad stuffs, so I had to cut and take off part of it. It was fine. Just tasted like a microwaved Gardenburger with a little too much mushroom if you ask me. Personally I like the salad-on-some-bread-sub, since all I usually want is the bread, the sweet onion sauce, and the black olives. But I get the lettuce, cucumbers, peppers, tomatoes, etc., and I like it. No cheese, too many calories and I usually ended up picking it off anyway since I&#8217;m picky like that. </p>
<p>Anyway, I am glad they have that for those who don&#8217;t like the salad-on-some-bread-sub. Also, I know that sort of option would have been a lifesaver for me in my early days of vegetarianism, when I didn&#8217;t know exactly what I was supposed to be eating now that I didn&#8217;t eat meat but knew I wanted something that vaguely reminded me, texture-wise, of meat. Transitions and all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get Subway often, but if I bring a veggie sub home, I fry up some of my own fake-chicken tofu stuffs and slap that on the sandwich. Way better than their VegPatty and fewer calories. Plus I know exactly what I put in it which is always nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 08:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the man with the vegan flan:
If you ask us to change our gloves, we will gladly do it, no matter how busy we are.  We&#039;re trained to respect people, and say you can&#039;t have pork or something, we WILL change our gloves so that you&#039;re satisfied.  Try it sometime :)

metanoia29:
Amen to that brother!  I&#039;m the shift manager here at our local Subway.  Our main customers for the Vegimax are Indian (no offense) and we get plenty of &quot;What&#039;s that&quot; questions.  I&#039;ve also had to yell at my employees for lying to customers because they didn&#039;t want to make it (because they say it smells when they cook it).  I think it&#039;s delicious though!  (We also keep ours in the freezer).  Unfortunately, our bain is too small to have it up there in view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the man with the vegan flan:<br />
If you ask us to change our gloves, we will gladly do it, no matter how busy we are.  We&#8217;re trained to respect people, and say you can&#8217;t have pork or something, we WILL change our gloves so that you&#8217;re satisfied.  Try it sometime :)</p>
<p>metanoia29:<br />
Amen to that brother!  I&#8217;m the shift manager here at our local Subway.  Our main customers for the Vegimax are Indian (no offense) and we get plenty of &#8220;What&#8217;s that&#8221; questions.  I&#8217;ve also had to yell at my employees for lying to customers because they didn&#8217;t want to make it (because they say it smells when they cook it).  I think it&#8217;s delicious though!  (We also keep ours in the freezer).  Unfortunately, our bain is too small to have it up there in view.</p>
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